Note: 'Divided' is a controversial film about age-integrated church worship that was produced by the National Center for Family Integrated Churches (NCFIC).
A Response to ‘Divided’
If you took the time to watch ‘Divided’, I ask you to also take the time to read this critique of some of the arguments made in the film and on the website. (While it is written in the first person, it should be noted that my husband and I both wrote it together.)
I am entering this discussion because this issue is causing disunity in the Body of Christ, which is something that I am, and God is, passionate about (Ephesians 4:1-3). Pastor Chuck Smith once said, "When Christ's Body is divided, pray tell, who bleeds?"
My purpose in writing this is that I see a misunderstanding in the film ‘Divided’ regarding the BLACK and WHITES of Scripture vs. the GREYS (areas the Bible is silent about). To have Youth Ministry or not to have Youth Ministry is not a Black and White issue. It is an area where we need to be led by the Spirit in our individual churches and families.
First I must make a few disclaimers:
Please know, my heart is not to cause division, but rather to expose an error that is hurting the Body of Christ. Even though I feel compelled to write this, it is my fervent prayer that I do so "making every attempt to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.” (Ephesians 4:1-3)
This is written with respect, and in the love of God, for the men who produced, and appeared in, the film 'Divided’. Also, I am not saying my conclusions necessarily reflect the personal views of all the family-integrated Church (FIC) proponents featured on 'Divided'. Rather, the conclusions I have come to are based off of the presentation as a whole, as well as the information provided on their website.
I share the concern that many youth programs have become entertainment-based instead of Scripture-based. I also wholeheartedly agree that fathers need to be the spiritual leaders in their homes (Ephesians 6:4). Additionally, I am in no way opposed to age-integrated worship. I truly believe the Lord is leading certain churches and individual families in that direction!
What I don't agree with is saying that age-integrated worship is THE model we see in Scripture, or conversely, that "...Youth Ministry is Contrary to Scripture" as 'Divided' puts forth.
The Positions Of ‘Divided’
The ‘Divided’ website states the following concerning their primary argument (emphasis and numbering is mine): “First, the primary argument of the NCFIC and the film Divided is not that youth ministry does not exist in the Bible. While we do observe in the film that the modern form of systematic, age-segregated youth ministry has neither precept nor example to support it in either the Old Testament or the New Testament, we do not rest our argument on this fact alone. What is more important – and this is the main point we want to make – is that (1) all the positive commands and examples in Scripture call for the practice of age-integrated worship and discipleship in the church and the responsibility of parents to disciple their own children. Deuteronomy 4:2 commands us not to add to or take away from the teaching and commands of Scripture in this regard. (2) To engage the church in systematic age-segregated youth ministry adds to God’s instructions on how youth are to be taught and trained, and (3) it takes away from God’s commands to parents to teach their own children (Deuteronomy 4:9; 6:7).”
From this statement, we see three main positions of their argument, which I have numbered and emphasized in capital letters. I disagree with each of these positions, and will deal with each one in order.
Scripture Does Not Call For Age-Integrated Worship
The first position I disagree with is that: “all the positive commands and examples in Scripture call for the practice of age-integrated worship and discipleship in the church, and the responsibility of parents to disciple their own children.”
There are numerous positive commands in Scripture regarding the responsibility of parents to disciple their own children, and therefore, I do not disagree with the second half of their statement. However, it is significant that there is not one single positive command for age-integrated worship anywhere in Scripture.
Clearly, the parental responsibility of discipleship is not something God wants His people in confusion over, so He has repeated the command to parents explicitly in numerous places (Genesis 18:19; Deuteronomy 4:9; Deuteronomy 6:6-9; Proverbs 22:6; Ephesians 6:4).
If age-integrated worship was also important to God, we would expect that He would similarly instruct us with clear commands to implement it within His church. But He has not.
It is my position that just as no set of positive commands exists which specifically call for age-integrated worship, neither does there exist a “normative pattern” of “examples” which calls for age-integrated worship as it relates to the regular weekly worship structure of the New Testament (NT) church.
Scriptures Used In Support Of FIC
The Bereans (Acts 17:11) were noted for searching the Scriptures. Let’s be Bereans and see what “normative patterns” of “examples” might exist in Scripture of age-integrated worship.
The ‘Divided’ movie and website claim that age-integrated worship is clearly taught and seen throughout the Bible, however, very little Scripture is provided. What follows comes from the NCFIC community (in absence of references on the ‘Divided’ website) and are the only Scriptures I have seen used to support the supposed normative pattern of age-integrated worship.
Before we begin, what should be noted up front is the immediate context of each of these supporting passages. When it comes to Bible interpretation there is a popular saying which is “Context is King”. Significantly, regular corporate worship is not the immediate context of any one of these passages.
“Assemble the people, men, women, and little ones, and the sojourner within your towns, that they may hear and learn to fear the Lord your God, and be careful to do all the words of this law, and that their children, who have not known it, may hear and learn to fear the Lord your God, as long as you live in the land that you are going over the Jordan to possess. (Deuteronomy 31:12–13) Earlier, in v10, Moses was instructed to do this at "...the end of every seven years, at the set time in the year of release, at THE FEAST OF BOOTHS (emphasis mine), when all Israel comes to appear before the LORD your God." Notice the context: This was not their regular worship, but rather a festival. Not even a yearly one, but one that came every SEVEN YEARS. Is this passage truly in support of age-integrated worship within the NT Church? I don’t believe so.
“There was not a word of all that Moses commanded that Joshua did not read before all the assembly of Israel, and the women, and the little ones, and the sojourners who lived among them.” (Joshua 8:35) Here, Joshua is fulfilling something Moses instructed in Deuteronomy 27:1-8: "Now Moses and the elders of Israel commanded the people saying, Keep the whole commandment that I command you today. And ON THAT DAY THAT YOU CROSS OVER THE JORDAN (emphasis mine) to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, you shall set up large stones and plaster them with plaster. And you shall write on them all the words of this law, when you cross over to enter the land that the Lord your God is giving you..." Here again, we do not see a pattern for weekly corporate worship, but a celebration and memorial on a very special and never-again-to-be-repeated occasion: the people coming into (to possess for the first time) the Promised Land.
“While Ezra prayed and made confession, weeping and casting himself down before the house of God, a very great assembly of men, women, and children, gathered to him out of Israel, for the people wept bitterly.” (Ezra 10:1) In this passage, a worship service is not taking place but rather, a national time of repentance for the people having "...broken faith with our God and married foreign women from the peoples of the land...” (verse 2). Some of the women and children present here may have even been of the ones who were "put away". Verse 3 says, "Therefore let us make a covenant with our God TO PUT AWAY ALL THESE WIVES AND THEIR CHILDREN (emphasis mine), according to the counsel of my lord and of those who tremble at the command of our God, and let it be done according to the law." Clearly, the context of this passage is not one of regular corporate worship. Rather, it is a tragic event in Biblical history, and example of the devastating consequences of sin.
“And all the people gathered as one man into the square before the Water Gate. And they told Ezra the scribe to bring the Book of the Law of Moses that the Lord had commanded Israel. So Ezra the priest brought the Law before the assembly, both men and women and all who could understand what they heard, on the first day of the seventh month.” (Nehemiah 8:1–2) The footnote in my ESV Bible says concerning this passage: "In this (passage) the Book of the Law is solemnly read, the Feast of Booths is kept, and a great act of covenantal renewal is performed." The Israelites had come back into the land after a long absence. This was a unique occasion and festival (the Feast of Booths), not a regular gathering of corporate worship. Yes, in each of the above passages we saw men, women and children present during the reading of the Law at three distinct gatherings (and one tragic event in Israel’s history that includes not the reading of the Law, but corporate repentance), but do these examples really argue for a normative pattern that then is to be looked at as a prescription for NT church worship?
Let's move on to the New Testament. These passages should be especially important, since it is the New Testament Church we are discussing.
“At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?” And calling to him a child, he put him in the midst of them and said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. “Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me.” (Matthew 18:1–5) “Then children were brought to him that he might lay his hands on them and pray. The disciples rebuked the people, but Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.” And he laid his hands on them and went away.” (Matthew 19:13–15) Notice that corporate worship is not the context. The purpose of these passages is to teach truth regarding the Kingdom of Heaven, of which children are a precious part. Was it important that Jesus called the little children to Him? Yes! But it is not an example of age-integrated worship. They came to Him there (presumably alongside their parents) because the King of Kings and Lord of Lords was physically in their midst! Today, little children can come to Jesus in the sanctuary alongside their parents OR in a classroom with a Sunday School teacher. There are NO commands (either positive or negative) of Scripture that would lead us to believe otherwise.
“Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.” (Ephesians 6:1) The context here is also not corporate worship. Rather, it is the institution of God’s design for the Christian household (Ephesians 5:22-6:9).
“Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.” (Colossians 3:20) Same as above.
“The elder to the elect lady and her children, whom I love in truth, and not only I, but also all who know the truth,” (2 John 1). The context here is not corporate worship, but a salutation.
Regarding the above three verses, some have made the argument that Paul assumed that children would be present when these letters were being read. Therefore, they conclude that the normative pattern of the NT church was one of age-integrated worship.
First, it should be noted that the children being present in the worship service MAY have been out of necessity (limited space) or the result of cultural norms. If cultural norms and setting constitute examples we are supposed to follow then you would also have to conclude that women must keep their heads covered during worship, that the Lord’s Supper is to be more than bread and wine (i.e. a meal), that believers are to adopt a kind of communal living based on the example of the church in Acts that had “all things in common”, and any number of false conclusions.
But even if these three NT passages are examples of children being present in the worship service with their parents, it does not follow that they constitute a normative pattern for the NT church that then warrants a prescription for how the global Church should operate. I will make the argument further on in this post that patterns are not tantamount to commands, and cannot be used to determine whether something is THE Biblical way to do something (i.e. it would be sin not to do it).
Having reviewed the Scriptures provided, it seems clear that there is neither a Biblical command nor a Biblical pattern for age-integrated worship. (For that matter, neither do we find a prescription for age-segregated worship). Rather, the Bible is silent on the matter. It is a Grey area.
Youth Ministry Does Not Add To God’s Instructions
The second position which ‘Divided’ argues is: “Age-segregated youth ministry adds to God’s instructions on how youth are to be taught and trained”.
They also say, “DEUTERONOMY 4:2 COMMANDS US NOT TO ADD TO OR TAKE AWAY FROM THE TEACHING AND COMMANDS OF SCRIPTURE IN THIS REGARD.”
What does it means to “add to God’s instructions”? When one claims that some particular practice adds to Scripture, they do not simply mean that whatever is being practiced cannot be found in Scripture. Many practices in this life can be godly, while not found in Scripture (e.g., art, educational methods, occupations, para-church ministries, etc.)
Rather, adding to God’s Word occurs when one takes a practice not found in the Bible, and elevates it to the level of Scripture.
Jesus called out the Pharisees for doing exactly this with their strict adherence to traditions of men (Mark 7:5–8).
Since the Bible is silent on the issue, if one argued that Youth Ministry was THE Biblical model then they would most certainly be guilty of adding to God’s instructions. However, most proponents of age-segregated ministry do not say it is THE Biblical way. Rather age-segregated ministry is a way to teach children and youth about Jesus.
Only when we take something not found in Scripture, and elevate it to the level of Scripture, are we guilty of adding to Scripture. Therefore, it is not correct to say that churches who have a Youth Ministry are transgressing God’s command in Deuteronomy 4:2 not to add to the Law.
Youth Ministry Can Help Parents Teach Their Children
The third position which ‘Divided’ argues is that “age-segregated youth MINISTRY TAKES away from God’s commands to parents to teach their own children”.
Is this true? Does age-segregated Youth Ministry usurp a parent's calling to teach their own
children?
If an hour and a half of Bible instruction to children in a Sunday School class is “contrary to Scripture” because it “takes away from God’s command for parents to teach their children”, then it would seem (following that chain of logic) that any teaching not given by the parents would HAVE TO BE WRONG, as well. I don’t think ‘Divided’ would argue that it is wrong for children to sit under the teaching of a pastor alongside their parents, so maybe their position is that it is only wrong for children to be taught when their parents are not present.
What about churches hosting Homeschool Co-ops? Or what about having an instructor trained in Inductive Bible Study teaching those methods to a class of children? Would these particular arrangements “add to God’s instructions on how youth are to be taught and trained” ? Are Homeschool co-ops “unbiblical” or are they, as I would argue, aBiblical (not specifically mentioned in the Bible, but not contrary to it)?
God did not say to parents that they ALONE were to be the teachers of their children. Clearly, we as parents must not abdicate our responsibility to teach our children of the Lord. But we DO have the freedom in Christ to prayerfully choose teachers in their lives; whether it be through the books of C.S. Lewis, the sermons of R.C. Sproul or the felt board stories of a Sunday School teacher.
If parents are obeying the command in Deuteronomy 6:6-7 to talk about His commands when they sit at home and when they walk along the road, when they lie down and when they get up, then a few hours of Youth Ministry a week does not usurp their parental authority or calling to teach. And since Youth Ministry and other Sunday School programs can, and often do!, fulfill the very clear Biblical commands to “Preach the Word” (2 Timothy 4:2), “Bring the little children to (Jesus)” (Matthew 19:14) and “…make disciples of all nations” (Matthew 28:19), it is simply NOT TRUE to say, as ‘Divided’ does, that “Youth Ministry is contrary to Scripture”.
Patterns Are Not Commands
The reason I disagree with the previous three statements from ‘Divided’ is because I do not believe they have a Scriptural argument for them. I see a foundational flaw in the Biblical exegesis underlying the primary positions in the film ‘Divided’ and its website. The problem is the authority given to patterns and principles found in Scripture. I believe that God’s universal will for us is found in the Black and Whites of Scripture, namely, His commands.
The ‘Divided’ website states, “If we accept the premise that we are only obligated to obey the Word of God when there is an express command, then we are forced to grapple with a number of other issues. For example, there is no command against polygamy, but Christians believe polygamy is wrong because of the patterns and commands of Scripture that define marriage, not because of a direct command against it.”
Polygamy is here being used to support two points, one of which I agree with. It is correct to say that we do not have to have “express commands” in Scripture in order for something to be regarded as sinful. What I do not agree with, is that polygamy is sin because of “patterns and commands of Scripture”. Here, it appears that patterns are being elevated to the same level as commands. While it is true that we do not have an express (or literal) command in Scripture that polygamy is a sin, we do have very CLEAR COMMANDS regarding marriage, which polygamy clearly violates (Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19 4-6; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-33; 1 Timothy 3:2; Hebrews 13:4). Patterns do not determine that polygamy is wrong; COMMANDS do.
‘Divided’ goes on to say: “Gambling and the smoking of marijuana are not condemned in the Bible, yet there are principles of Scripture that make it clear that these are sinful.” Again, ‘Divided’ is correct in saying that “we are not only obligated to obey express commands”. Some things, though not explicit in Scripture, fall under the interpretation of certain commands. Marijuana is one of those. Though there is not an “express command” (i.e. marijuana is not specifically mentioned), there is a Biblical command which speaks to it, namely: “And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery, but be filled with the Spirit.” (Ephesians 5:18) We interpret and apply this command to marijuana by understanding that we are not to be controlled by anything which leads to debauchery. Instead, we are to give ourselves over to the leading and control of the Holy Spirit. Clearly, marijuana has the same controlling effect as being drunk with wine and therefore, violates the command. So it is not the principles of Scripture which makes smoking marijuana a sin, but rather clear commands in Scripture which make smoking marijuana sinful.
Concerning whether or not gambling is sinful, I would not say that “principles of Scripture” make ALL gambling sinful. Instead, there are clear commands in Scripture which make MOST instances of gambling sinful. Gambling very often is motivated by greed, which God’s Word clearly addresses as sin in numerous places (Colossians 3:5, 1Timothy 6:9-10, etc.). Ephesians 4:28 says, “Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.” Since much gambling involves stealing from one’s own family (using money that is meant to pay bills, purchase needs, etc.), this command would identify many instances of gambling a sin. 2 Thessalonians 3:11-12 says, “…we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living…” This command would make gambling as a means of primary income a sin, since those who gamble are not “earning” their winnings. When gambling becomes an addiction it is sinful. The following is a quote is from www.BlueLetterBible.org : “The moment any activity (be it gambling or reading) begins ruling one's life that is when that activity becomes sinful for that individual.” Also, gambling is not generally wise for Christians because of the environment it often takes place in (in 1 Thessalonians 5:22 we are told to “avoid the appearance of evil” ). Furthermore, it could cause “another brother to stumble” (Romans 14:21). So again, it is not patterns and principles, but rather clear commands in Scripture that would make the MAJORITY of gambling sinful.
‘Divided’ continues this argument for patterns by speaking about “…the authority of principles, positive commands, and normative patterns.” Normative patterns, even principles, do not have the same “authority” as commands in Scripture. Jesus said if we love Him we will obey His COMMANDS (John 154:15). He told us to go and make disciples, teaching them all that He had COMMANDED (Matthew 28:28-20). Yes, “All Scripture is God breathed” and “profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness…” (2 Timothy 3:16), but not all Scripture is equal in the sense of being guidelines that we MUST order our lives after. Normative patterns in Scripture do not need to be obeyed as Biblical commands and instructions do. Patterns can certainly illustrate Biblical commands (as in Acts 2:42), but, in-and-of-themselves, “normative patterns” cannot be treated as having the authority that Biblical commands and instructions do.
For example, what about seeking medical care? In Scripture the pattern we see for healing involves God either healing directly by Himself, or through His prophets and disciples. Since the Biblical pattern for healing of physical ailments excludes seeking medical care should we say that medical care is "contrary to Scripture”? Of course not. We would only say medical care is contrary to Scripture if there was a Biblical command being violated.
God has given us very clear commands regarding the New Testament church (just as He did with the tabernacle and temple). NONE of those commands deal with where children are to be during the church service.
Black And Whites vs. Grey Areas
At the beginning of this article, I stated the following:
“I am entering this discussion because this issue is causing disunity in the Body of Christ, which is something that I am, and God is, passionate about (Ephesians 4:1-3). Pastor Chuck Smith once said, "When Christ's Body is divided, pray tell, who bleeds?" My purpose in writing this is that I see a misunderstanding in the film ‘Divided’ regarding the BLACK and WHITES of Scripture vs. the GREYS.”
I will now turn my attention to why it is so important for unity within the Body of Christ for us to understand the difference between the Black and Whites of Scripture and the Greys (areas where God is silent). “Silent” meaning there is no clear command or instruction of Scripture that speaks either directly to it; or indirectly, as in the case of polygamy.
A misunderstanding of this difference is the cause for many divisive issues within the Church today. Whole ministries have even been built upon the assertion that their particular methods are THE Biblical way. One example would be that of infant feeding and sleeping. Certainly, meeting your baby’s basic needs is obeying the Biblical Command to “love” them, but the specifics of HOW that is carried out is largely a Grey area. Other examples include: the particulars regarding modesty, educational choices, health and nutrition guidelines, the process leading up to marriage, the specifics of discipline, how to best be a “keeper at home” and family devotions.
Of course, everything we are led in regarding the grey areas MUST comply with clear Biblical commands. And if God leads us in a particular Grey area, it becomes sin for us to disobey. However, we have to be very careful never to hold up what is God’s leading in a Grey area FOR US as God’s leading for another.
For example, my husband and I have been led to homeschool and to have a large family. These are areas we know the Lord has led us in. However, we do not believe everyone is called to walk the same path we are on. If the Lord at some point leads us to have our children sit in the worship service with us, we will approach it the same way. (In fact, He very well may lead us in this as our oldest has already joined us at the age of eight.) Certainly, if people ask why we will share with them the reasons we were led, as well as the benefits of our decision. But to say that our way is THE Biblical way would be untruthful and would cause division.
One of the reasons we as believers can get caught up promoting our way as THE way is because we often do have godly reasons for why we do what we do. The Lord may have even used some examples in Scripture to lead us in a particular direction. And when we begin to experience the blessings of obedience to God’s leading, it is natural to then want others to experience the same blessings. The danger comes when we go beyond sharing our testimony to then holding up our way of life as the best way, or worse THE Biblical way. SUCH damage occurs to the Church when we slip into this because it results in dividing the Body of Christ. Also, what does such division do to our witness to a lost and dying world? How can they “know us by (our) love” (John 13:35) when we are not being loving toward one another? I am NOT saying discussions about doctrinal differences between believers shouldn’t happen or that there isn’t a place for “iron (to sharpen) iron” (Proverbs 27:17), but we need to “make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit” (Ephesians 4:3) to avoid hurting each other, our witness and our King.
The fact that there are Grey areas raises a question. If God is silent on some issues, then is the Word no longer “sufficient” for all of life’s decisions? The sufficiency of Scripture is in no way compromised by Grey areas because the Word DOES “speak to all of life” by giving us direction on how to proceed when the Bible is not specific:
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and HE WILL DIRECT YOUR PATHS.” (Proverbs 3:5-6) “Ask, seek and knock…” (Matthew 7:7); “If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask…” (James 1:5)
Why would we be told to ask for wisdom if everything we EVER need to know is to be found in Scripture? I believe God is silent concerning some specifics in life not only because our cultures, callings and circumstances are unique, but because He wants us SEEKING HIM for direction. We were redeemed not just for holiness, but for relationship with the Living God! Not only has God spoken to us clearly through His Word, but He has also given us His Spirit (HIMSELF) to live within us. These two Guides in our lives work together to lead us in “paths of righteousness for His Name’s sake” (Psalm 23:3).
Look at it this way: God is silent on some things in the Bible so that He might speak about them to us through His Spirit.
This is also true regarding the spiritual training of our children. God commands parents to teach their children of Him, but many of the specifics are Grey areas for which His Spirit will lead them if they are seeking Him. Parents who are seeking to love God “with all of their heart, soul, mind and strength” (Matthew 22:37) will be transformed to seek God’s best for their children and they will be “gently led” (Isaiah 40:11) by Him in the specifics of raising their family.
It is my prayer that those of us in this discussion will see that both age-integration and age-segregation in the church can be godly. Moreover, both WILL be godly when based on the CLEAR COMMANDS of Scripture, and executed in the power, and by the INDIVIDUAL LEADING, of the Holy Spirit.
What then are we to do about the alarming statistics regarding youth in the church? Ultimately, we must leave the results to God, but our part is to simply obey what He has commanded of us:
Pastors, "Preach the Word".
Fathers, bring up your children "in the discipline and instruction of the Lord”.
Mothers, "love your husbands and children".
Children, "honor your father and mother".
Church, “be in the world but not of the world”.
And anything else God teaches and COMMANDS of us in His Word, and leads us in by His Spirit:
Psalm 143:10 says, “Teach me to do your will, for you are my God! Let your good Spirit lead me on level ground.”
If we truly love Jesus, we WILL obey His commands (John 14:15), and those commands are “not burdensome” (1 John 5:3).
Nor are they hard for believers to understand:
Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father,
for such was your gracious will…
Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
Matthew 11:25-30